I’m thrilled to be bringing Chris Guillebeau of The Art of Non-Conformity to Adversity University. He’s someone truly different from the rest of the bloggers I’ve interviewed here. In fact, he was in a guest house somewhere in Erbil, Kurdistan, a nice peaceful place, not at all like the rest of Iraq!
I mean, IRAQ? Wow. I wonder if he was scared to be so close to a war zone. Imagine that!
Let me briefly tell you how I “met” him. I had seen his name floating around the Internet a bit. One day, I decided to visit his blog and browse around (isn’t that what most of us do out there? We tend to browse around, like we do in a shopping mall, and then we either make a purchase (in blogging that’s like signing up for a subscription) or we lurk around some more. I’ve had lots of “lurkers” around Adversity University over the last few years. Only when they feel my work is worth their time do they finally sign up. People are funny that way.
Anyway, I was looking through his site when I found an article of his that caught my attention. One thing led to another and I ended up subscribing. I’ve never met anyone who made it their life’s purpose to travel around the world. He’s usually writing from some foreign cafe like he was doing when answering my questions. Don’t you think that’s cool or what?
By the time you’re done with Chris, I think you’ll be fascinated with what he’s trying to accomplish. Shall we call him out now??
(THE AUDIENCE ROARS ITS APPROVAL, SHOUTING CHRIS! CHRIS! CHRIS!)
CHRIS?? Please come out from behind those doors, we’re all waiting for you, my new friend! Come on out!
1. One of my favorite questions when I want to learn about someone is by asking them to give me their 5 second introduction when I pose the question: “What do you do for a living?”
I have been self-employed for most of my adult life, having done anything I could to avoid getting the dreaded “real job.” The specifics of that have ranged from importing coffee from Jamaica to consulting to working with Google Adwords and Adsense. At the moment I’m more focused on my writing than on making money, but I’ll be introducing a couple of information products soon that will help support the writing project.
Stephen’s Response: Haha, that one makes me laugh - the “real job.” Yes, I know what you mean. The first ten years of my life after college was with the “real 9 to 5 corporate job.” But when I got to Merrill Lynch, my whole life did a turnabout because being a stockbroker meant that I was no longer in a “staff job.” It was as if I was my own boss because I was responsible for my production. Anyway, I’m sure many people here at Adversity University can identify with the “real job” thing. They’re probably in them! Best wishes with the launch of your products that will help you support your writing endeavors. I need to do the same thing here.
2. Tell me in 3 to 5 sentences something we can’t read in your bio or at the “About Page” at your blog “The Art of Non-Conformity.”
I’m a pretty quiet person and I keep to myself a lot. I had a crazy childhood that wasn’t much fun at the time, but it helped me become who I am now, so I have no regrets. I like to run and drink coffee, not usually at the same time.
Stephen’s Response: That’s pretty interesting - I bet that’s why you’re able to travel on your own much of the time. Haha, run and drink coffee? That’d be fun to watch if you made an attempt at it! I myself love coffee but am not very fond of running - on the treadmill, that is. But I do it in the name of good exercise!
3. How long have you been blogging at “The Art of Non-Conformity”?
I outlined the project last year while traveling, and then spent a long time thinking about the platform and how I would structure the content. We officially launched in March 2008. Since then I’ve published three essays a week on Life, Work, and Travel, along with some other occasional updates.
Stephen’s Response: Well, I’ll tell you something Chris. I love your blog. It’s beautiful. That’s why I became a subscriber after reading a few articles. You most definitely have an unusual platform. There aren’t too many bloggers who blog from different parts of the world. Not only that but you have this writing style that I like very much. Can’t put my finger on it but it’s just that “special something” about your writing. I love getting your updates and I think my readers will too.
4. What is the real reason you started “The Art of Non-Conformity”?
I have helped a number of people on an individual basis prior to starting the site, and I wanted to be able to do that on a broader level. I also wanted a platform for my writing about personal development and world travel. The goal is to write my first book over the next year and then go on from there.
Stephen’s Response: Blogging is a great way to help the largest number of people at one time, for sure. I’m about to launch a personal/spiritual coaching business online because I want to reach out to as many people as I can. It’s amazing how much the Internet has evolved over the years. It’s powerful beyond imagination.
5. One of the reasons why you’re being interviewed, Chris, is because you come across as someone who I’d like to meet in person. Your writings reflect a source of honesty and inner wisdom. That means I perceive you as an authentic blogger, an important prerequisite for this interview. How did you become like this?
Thanks! That’s nice of you. I think it happened through trial and error, with a lot of error. I have made many, many mistakes in my life, but I’ve managed to keep going and not give up. There’s no real secret to authenticity other than that, I don’t think.
Stephen’s Response: Same here - I started writing seriously right after I quit Wall Street in the late 90’s. I credit Julia Cameron, author of “The Artist’s Way” for helping me get out the words on to paper. I began journaling and writing to my heart’s desires. Eventually, I started to write short stories and submitting them to various inspirational sites like heartwarmers.com When my stories began getting accepted, my confidence in writing began to shoot up. Like you, I just kept writing and didn’t give up. Now I’m at a point where I’ve written a complete manuscript for my first book and am, in fact, waiting to hear from a major publisher on the results of their review of my book proposal. One step at a time, right Chris?
6. If I were to ask you to dig a little further, how would you define who you really are?
At the moment I would say I am a writer, social entrepreneur, traveler, and learner. I change focuses every two years or so, but those things usually remain constant in some form.
Stephen’s Response: That’s pretty cool. I think it’s awesome that you’re gaining some pretty incredible experiences as a traveler. I bet most people would love to do what you’re doing if they put their minds to it.
7. What is the best advice you’ve ever received? Given?
Received - I’m not sure; I’ve heard so many good things and have been impacted by so many great people that it’s hard to pick just one.
Given - “You don’t have to live your life the way other people expect you to.” That’s one of the messages in the manifesto, and it seems it resonates with a lot of readers.
Stephen’s Response: The manifesto was absolutely astonishing. I not only Stumbled it but I also Twittered and told the Adversity University community about it. I love the philosophy “you don’t have to live your life the way other people expect you to.” Gosh, Chris, that’s so incredibly powerful and freeing! Can you imagine if every single person on this planet was living their life according to the way they wanted to? The world we live in now would be such a different place, don’t you think?
8. What do you consider your proudest achievement in life?
It is a joint achievement, obviously, but in all of life I am most proud of my ten-year marriage to Jolie. She is a remarkable person and we have come a long way together.
Stephen’s Response: So does she travel with you too? This is the first I’ve heard about your wife. I was under the impression that you were traveling by yourself.
9. We all have a dark side, what’s yours?
If by “dark side” you mean weaknesses, I have more than just one, unfortunately. The biggest challenge for me as a leader right now is insecurity, especially knowing when to listen to criticism and when to ignore it.
Another challenge I have with life in general is that it is very difficult for me to do anything I am not motivated to do. That is related to the A.D.D. I have had since childhood. Sometimes it can be a positive characteristic, because a lot of expectations we all think we are supposed to follow are not at all necessary, but there are other times when it would be great if I could get my act together and do something that needs to be done.
Stephen’s Response: We’re all insecure on some level. I’ve never met a 100 percent secure person unless they were acting out of arrogance (pretending to be secure). Criticism is one of the hardest things to grapple with. It takes time and experience to sort out which ones you need to listen to and which ones are petty. I’m still trying to sort that out myself!
10. Just recently you released a fabulous manifesto that I fell in love with: ”A Brief Guide to World Domination.” How did the idea to write that come to you? What made you do it? It inspired me to write my own! Did you do the design yourself or did you hire someone to do it for you? It was very professionally done, pleasing to the eye and quite clean - and enjoyable.
Since last year I knew I would write the manifesto to build readership and create flagship content after the first couple of months of writing. I wanted something a bit longer than the usual blog post or essay length, but not as long as a book. I ended up working on it, off and on, for a couple of months while going between countries in the Middle East, South America, and Asia.
I’m glad you liked the design-I did too, and can’t take any credit for myself. For that, I used the services of the great Reese Spykerman. Reese and her husband do fantastic design work from two continents, and I highly recommend them. A number of people have said that when they opened the document they were initially expecting a regular “ebook style” report, but were then drawn in by the design. For that, I can only thank Reese.
Stephen’s Response: Well, thanks for the tipoff to Reese Spykerman. When I’m ready to do my manifesto, I will see what he has to offer me. I know I need to do one. In fact, I need to do not only a manifesto but also an e-book. But I keep putting that stuff off1 Your manifesto really inspired me to do one of my own so I thank you for that! Yes, people are drawn in by design - many of us out there are visually oriented, don’t you think? I know I am. Maybe that’s a big reason why I loved it - it was a combination of great writing and pleasing visuals.
Gosh, ladies and gentlemen, that was a QUICK interview! We have the second part coming next Wednesday so stay tuned for that. Let’s give Chris a hearty applause for taking a break from traveling and coming to our beautiful campus here at Adversity University. It was a priviledge to have him here and we can’t wait to see him again!
Thanks Chris and the rest of you for listening in on this interview. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. More to the point, I hope you took some time to roam around Chris’ blog, The Art of Non-Conformity. I believe you’ll enjoy yourselves while there.
Until then, enjoy!
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10:26 am on July 23rd, 2008 1
One of the reasons I like these interviews so much is that I get to meet new people all the time through your blog. I went over to Chris’ blog and read the “ass kicking” post. I’ll definitely be reading more!
Karen Putzs last blog post..Deaf Mom World Gets a New Look–Makes Alltop
12:11 pm on July 23rd, 2008 2
Interesting person to interview. I just read a couple of Chris’ blog articles and will go back and read more.
Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworkers last blog post..10 Things That Make Me Happy
2:33 pm on July 23rd, 2008 3
A very cool interview on a very interesting person. Traveling is great — it really opens up your world.
I, too, am a bit curious about his wife. It doesn’t sound like she travels with him, does it? I would imagine it to be rather strange to have one spouse that travels all the time and go in and out of your life, but yet, it’s pretty common and many couples make it work.
I think a bit of separation once in a while is healthy — gives us something new to talk about with your spouse!
ari
3:27 pm on July 23rd, 2008 4
Hello Mr. Hopson:
I wanted to let you know that I enjoyed this interview, and all of your interviews in general. I find your question-asking method to be engaging and fun. Keep up the good work, sir!
DMW
3:44 pm on July 23rd, 2008 5
Chris made me feel regret there was no such thing as blogging when I was a travel agent.
Ir would have been fun to record experiences and thoughts as I traveled the world.
What a wonderful life!
Can’t wait to check out ”A Brief Guide to World Domination.”
And to read yours, Stephen!
4:44 pm on July 23rd, 2008 6
It was great to have him here. I enjoyed that. That certainly is one way to not conform - to travel around the world and write. I can just see a mom saying “You’re going to do what??!” when a child tells her that he is going to travel the world and quit his job.:) hmmm…. maybe I’ll just do that…. Probably not, but I sure think I would enjoy it. Maybe I’ll do that later in life….
11:42 am on July 24th, 2008 7
Karen:
I’m glad you are enjoying these interviews. They’re fun, especially when I find interesting characters of different but authentic backgrounds. By now, I’ve gotten a pretty good sense about the community congregating around here and what they tend to like. It looks like the interview series are touching a chord for folks like you.
That’s cool! I will continue doing them as long as people want me to.
11:44 am on July 24th, 2008 8
Patricia:
What you’re doing (checking out other bloggers) is part of the reason I do this. I love pimping other bloggers because I’ve had people do that for me. It’s fun to share what I enjoy reading in the hopes that they’d find it fun to read as well.
11:47 am on July 24th, 2008 9
Ari:
Before I go into your comment, let me alert you and others who might read this that I am trying to find out why the CommentLuv plug-in is not pulling out the link to your last blog post that is supposed to show up underneath your comment. Corinne Edwards, a subscriber, alerted me to this. She wanted to know why some people were having their last blog post pulled while others weren’t.
Of course, this only works if you yourself have a blog (which I know you do). Anyway, I’m investigating this. The CommentLuv plug-in was inserted to show my appreciation for those who take the time to write me a comment and share their thoughts.
Okay, enough of that. Thanks for sharing YOUR comment about my interview with Chris. It is indeed a cool way to travel, isn’t it?
11:49 am on July 24th, 2008 10
Michael:
Thanks! I enjoy giving them - they’re fun and I end up learning more about the person being interviewed. I’m fortunate that I keep coming up with new and interesting people to be showcased here. Seems that people like you and others are enjoying them as well and I thank you for letting me know that publicly.
I appreciate all comments. BTW, check out my response to Ari about the CommentLuv plug-in situation. I noticed that it didn’t pull your last blog post either. Sorry about that. Working on it now.
12:03 pm on July 24th, 2008 11
Corinne:
As you can see, I made a brief announcement when responding to Ari’s comment about the CommentLuv plug-in that you alerted me to. Thanks! I’m looking into it right now with both the plug-in developer and the theme developer to see if they can help me fix it. It appears to be broken.
Turning to your comment about Chris’s lifestyle - yeah, it certainly seems like he’s having fun traveling the world like this. It’s amazing anyone can find a way to make it happen - you don’t need to be a billionaire to do what he’s doing. It’s cool to get an update from him every time he’s in a different country. I get to live vicariously through him.
12:07 pm on July 24th, 2008 12
Jennifer:
I don’t know if you noticed this but when you left a comment, it was exactly 4:44! I’ve been noticing a series of triple numbers, usually 4’s and 2’s. I’m no expert in numerology but I think it’s fascinating to see these numbers appear in my life so often. One of my readers told me about the spiritual meaning behind such occurrences. I love the mystery behind them!
Haha, your comment about a mom saying to her kid, “You’re going to WHAT? Travel around the world? The hell you’re not!” That’s sort of what my mom said to me when I told her I was going to quit a six figure Wall Street career to follow my dreams of becoming a speaker, etc. I can still remember in vivid detail the day it happened. Oh Lord, our mothers! They love us, they protect us. Whew.
Well, if you subscribe to Chris’s blog, you can always live through him vicariously. Wink, wink.
9:25 am on July 25th, 2008 13
This is a test comment to verify that my new direct reply comment script that I installed is working properly. It allows me to reply directly to each commentator inside my WP Adminstration panel without having to go back and forth between the panel and the blog (too time consuming). This script allows me to stay inside my WP Panel and reply directly to each comment, which will post itself directly to the appropriate location without having to switch back and forth. Thanks goes to Lorelle of WordPress who alerted Wendy Piersall of Sparkplugging about this script. Let’s see if it works!
9:29 am on July 25th, 2008 14
@ Stephen Hopson:
I see that this is working! I am responding from within my WP Administration Panel to see if this really works or not. If it works as “advertised,” then it will be a HUGE time saver. WOOT!
5:35 pm on July 25th, 2008 15
Stephen, Chris’ response to a purpose that is traveling around the world is so empowering. I love that it can be that easy. When we stop judging the purpose we have and start manifesting it, that is when we enter bliss. That is when we experience happiness. If we all went did what we are here to do without making ourselves wrong for doing it, the world would be a much happier, peaceful place indeed. In my workshops, I often guide people to their purposes. They get it during the workshop. It is clear. And then they leave in judgment and go out to DO something with their lives. I had a client whose purpose was to play, but then she went to work. Now that would be fine if you bring the quality of play into your work. the judgment makes it so we leave our purpose at the door at the start of our day. Tell everyone, Stephen , to live their purpose! The rest of their life will be so much easier. Thank you for your interview. It got me going!
7:19 pm on July 25th, 2008 16
Stephen, glad you brought Chris to my attention. I really enjoyed this interview, and I dig his site.
8:24 pm on July 25th, 2008 17
@ Tom Stine | Spiritual Life Coach:
Tom:
I love having you around - your spirit is so calming and positive.
Like you, I dig Chris’ site - I’m happy that I seem to find bloggers that this community takes to a liking. Makes my efforts worthwhile; besides, it’s fun to ask questions that make this interview series stand apart from the others out there.
8:28 pm on July 25th, 2008 18
@ CK Reyes:
CK:
It excites me to know that this particular interview “got you going.” That’s great!
Although I’ve never traveled the world in the same way Chris has, I certainly like to live viracously through him! He shares his personal stories that are always refreshing, interesting and educational. One day when I do find myself traveling around the globe on international speaking engagements, I wouldn’t be surprised if I called upon him for some advice.
You are so right that if we all went and did what we came here to do, our lives would be that much more meaningful. Therein lies the challenge to find that purpose and then live it out. I’m fortunate to have found me through the medium of professional speaking and life coaching.
Yes, I’ll be glad to tell everyone to live their life’s purpose - it’s what I’ve been trying to do the last few years through this blog. I think and hope the community gets that.