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July 8th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Stephen Hopson Interview with Lorelle on WordPress Part III of IV

Lorelle of WordPress is baaaaaaaack!  She’s the most famous “WordPress Queen” in case you haven’t heard of her before.  If you haven’t, that means you probably missed the first two parts.   I would recommend you read Part I and Part II before you delve into today’s 3rd segment of the 4-part interview series.

(Looking at Lorelle) Shall we?

(Giving each other high fives).

11. Conversely, what do you consider your proudest achievement in life?

Hmm, good question. And interesting contrast. Actually, I haven’t had a single achievement I’d say I was proud of. I’ve had many. But I want to qualify that.

In my talks on blogging and web publishing, I often ask people to define “blog success.” It means something different to everyone, but most say it’s traffic numbers, feed reader numbers, and use measurable statistics and numbers.

To me, I enjoy simple achievements to define my success. I have had all the big honors. Didn’t care. Not into the love-me wall stuff. Don’t want the trophies. Don’t need the certificates to prove I did things. Don’t care.

To me, making someone laugh is an achievement. I actually managed to put words together in a way that brought a smile and giggle to someone’s face. Helping someone learn makes me so proud as I watch them take the information and move forward smiling and proud they figured it out.

I just got off the phone with and he is reeling from the brain switch from SOBCon08. He’s changed his whole business model based upon what he learned at the conference. He has a better understanding of what “social” really means on the web and it is changing his life and business. As a small part of SOBCon, that’s a major accomplishment that I’m proud of.

Every day is an accomplishment for me. That truck could have killed me or left me in worse condition. I’ve taken a lot of risks in my life and lived on the edge a long time. The fact that I’m still here kicking is probably the best achievement of all.

Until you define success, that’s my best answer.

Stephen’s Response:  I very much enjoyed David’s presentation at SOBCON08 - in fact, I told him he ought to seriously consider becoming a professional speaker - he was that engaging!   I agree that the fact you’re still kicking and screaming is the most wonderful achievement, especially when taking into light all the adversities you’ve experienced.

I don’t really think anyone has a firm grasp on the definition of success - it means different things to different people so it was interesting to hear your take on it.

12. We all have a dark side, what’s yours?

You’ll have to do better than that. Define dark side? Bad moods? Bad habits? Secret sides?

Honestly, I live a WYSIWYG life. People put labels on it and judge it. Not my business. I don’t have time for time-wasters. I live on the road in a fifth wheel trailer pulled by a one ton, crew cab, old beater truck. I’m trailer trash. RVer. Transient. That’s just me. Don’t like it, get over it. :D

Sure, there are dark times, stressful times, nights without sleep, but we all have it. It’s natural. So embrace it. Get over it. Let the dark be the balance of your life and appreciate that there is balance. I just choose to focus on the light in public.

Stephen’s Response:  LOL.  You’re a character, let me give you that much!  Trailer trash.  Ha.  Good for you that you don’t care what others think.  Actually, I wrote an article about how what others think is actually none of our business anyway.  We can’t control what they think so why worry?

13. What four books, blogs and/or mentors have influenced you and why?

While a lot of people have influenced me, books guide my life in so many ways, so I’ll focus on them as I rarely get to talk about my favorite influential and life changing authors.

Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card: It’s an amazing science fiction novel that explores out of the box thinking. It was the first to win both Hugo and Nebula Awards. What’s more amazing is that Card went on to write several sequels, and then he decided to go back, over a decade later, and revisit the world of Ender Wiggin by writing a sequel that is actually one of the world’s first books that creates a sequel by telling the same story from the perspective of one of the other characters. The Ender’s Shadow series following Bean was published, and now, for the twentieth anniversary of Ender’s Game, Card is revisiting again with “Ender Stories” as part of Enderverse (Ender’s Universe) which are more stories of Ender’s Game told from other character’s viewpoints. That’s serious box breaking writing, and I learn so much from everything Orson Scott Card writes.

Life 101 by Peter McWilliams: Simple life lessons told in a couple pages per chapter that will kick your butt. They kicked mine. A dog-eared copy is never far from my side when I need more butt kicking.

His writing on Master Teachers In Disguise in Life 101 explaining the power that can be found in fear is life changing. When you look at fear as energy and motivation, a thing to be welcomed and embraced, as well as listened to wisely, you get a better understanding of how we keep letting stupid stuff stop us from living our best lives. McWilliams’ attitude about making mistakes, something we all do but often over-react to, is wonderful:

Mistakes are valuable if, for no other reason, they show us what not to do. As Joseph Ray told us, “The Athenians, alarmed at the internal decay of their Republic, asked Demosthenes what to do. His reply: `Do not do what you are doing now.’ ”

In Hollywood, mis-takes are common. (”That was wonderful, darlings. Now let’s get ready for take two.”) Give yourself as many re-takes as you need. Stars do it. (”I didn’t feel quite right with that one, Mr. deMille. Can we take it again?”) Why not you?

A Hollywood song (lyrics by Dorothy Fields) sums it up: “Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again.” Or, to quote an African proverb, “Do not look where you fell, but where you slipped.”

From Peter’s writing, I learned how to write for the web. Each chapter is only a page or two long, crystal clear in its presentation and intent. Sentences all have a point, with no wasted words. He pulls no punches while infusing every point with love and compassion beyond measure.

I constantly return to this book for inspiration, motivation, and creative ideas. His other books, now offered free on his site, continue to guide and inspire my life and will for years to come. I often joke that Life 101 is my bible, it’s that powerful an influence in my life.

: Author of dozens of books, I am a huge fan of his and have read everything I can find, and then reread them all. I love the diversity of his writing, covering silly and fairly simple plot twists with style and a twisted sense of humor. For example, in his Spellsinger series, he asks the question, “What if a failing law student-wannabe-rock-star is transported onto another planet where the animals all talk?” Or another trilogy that began with Light years Beneath My Feet about a camper in the mountains who wakes up in an intergalactic zoo traveling through space as a specimen. Or To the Vanishing Point, where the simple act of a family picking up a hitchhiker on their way to vacation in Vegas in their RV turns into a path from hell as the hitchhiker turns the road into a path way through the universe. He makes it all legitimate, believable, and wonderful as he mixes some fantasy and magic into fascinating worlds where human values are tortured and tested, along with the characters involved.

His Humanx Commonwealth series universe dazzles me every time. Taking the concept of prejudice to its most base level, he brings together humans with their deepest and darkest primitive fear: insects. Human-sized bugs with a vast intelligence and culture who finds the soft shells of humans as repulsive as humans find them. These could be the best of the best for evil villains in any genre, but Foster never looks at the world in stereotypes. While this could be a series with fears, dark, and ghastly shadows, or comical plays, it’s a sensitive and powerful exploration of prejudices and how to overcome it, and how to unite a society forced to play nice together whether they want to or not. I often think of the Middle East situation when I read books in this series. How do you find commonality when both sides hate each other so much and their cultures are so vastly different?

The Catechist series is one of the most poetic science fiction novels I’ve ever found. Foster has a lyrical way with words that I envy. It’s poetry in motion. He specializes in creating characters out of animals, with distinctive personalities. He also isn’t afraid to speak out and be irreverent. One of his most famous quotes is “Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting.”

Terry Pratchett: While living overseas, I was introduced to Terry Pratchett, author of the incredible Discworld series. It couldn’t have come at a better time as we were facing economic and security problems in the Middle East with the war in Afghanistan and impending Bush War on Iraq, and things were incredibly tiresome and depressing everywhere as we waiting for war. I started reading Terry Pratchett and spent the next two or three years laughing harder than I could ever remember.

Pratchett is appreciated the world over for his delightful novels, but I don’t think he really gets the appreciation he deserves for being such an expert in satire. Other than L. Ron Hubbard’s Mission Earth series, I don’t think I have read any collection of books so consistently irreverent and beautiful abusive of human traits, habits, and nonsense that we all take so seriously. Each Discworld book tackles some human obsession or industry such as the movie industry, music industry, tourist industry, fairy tales, communication industry, and the list goes on and on. His use of language, dialog, and storytelling techniques continues to delight me. I thank him for helping me survive what could have been nearly the suicidal depression of living with war and terrorism.

Pratchett also taught me a lot about web writing, about how to mix in humor with characters and their environment to tell a story. I’m so draw to really good storytellers, ones who create believable worlds with words we can totally get lost in.

As I read the works of amazing writers like these and other great writers of all different genres, I’m constantly reminded about how little I still understand about how we pull words out of our heads and form them into concepts and ideas that move individuals as well as nations. These masters push me to write better and learn how to express myself better.

Anything that makes me want to push myself farther, past my sedentary comfort zone, I adore.

Argh. Get me talking about books and authors and we could do a whole show just on that!

Stephen’s Response:  Good thing you stopped right there my dear friend.  Otherwise, I would have had to order sleeping bags for everyone in the audience.

Hey, I just thought of something - that wouldn’t have been such a bad idea!

Imagine this:  a slumber party!   That would be a first at Adversity University.  Can you see it Lorelle?  Everyone in their PJ’s with a bowl of popcorn and a remote control to either put you on pause, fast forward or rewind your words.   Wouldn’t that be awesome or WHAT?

Kidding aside, I read “Life 101″ because you recommended it to me.  I found it to be a series of lessons that all of us need to be reminded of.  It was an interesting book and I need to re-read it again because I went through it so fast.  I’m a fast reader.  I can finish books just like that (snap of fingers).

14. Name the top 5 articles from “Lorelle on WordPress” that you believe readers at Adversity University would benefit from. (Provide a link for each please).

  • The Power of the Link: If you don’t understand how the web works, this article will introduce you to the most powerful feature.
  • How NOT to Comment on Comments: The web is about communication. If you aren’t communicating in a way to convey your message well and draw people towards you to continue the conversation, you are missing the whole point of the web.
  • Do-It-Yourself Search Engine Optimization Guide: Don’t believe all the junk you get in your email or read on the web about SEO. Read this and you will know just about all there is to know about how to convert your online publishing site into a publishing empire - well, sorta. :D
  • Blogging Tips - Hundreds of Resources for Your Blog: This continues to be a strong article that helps so many people think through how they get their news and information to help them research their blog post content.
  • What Do You Do When Someone Steals Your Content: Copyright violations are a matter of when, not if, and everyone needs to learn about copyright and Fair Use laws and restrictions. Just because it’s on the web doesn’t mean it’s free. Protect your rights and the rights of others. Don’t be a copy cat.
  • Blog Challenge: Blog Your Dash: Plus one, just for you, Stephen. Every week or so I offer a blog challenge to help kick some blog butt. This was a favorite of mine and touched a lot of spirits.

Stephen’s Response:  You might have learned from the first two parts that some of the people who hang out here at Adversity University aren’t bloggers so they might not be familiar with anything having to do with blogging.

However, with over 100 million blogs in existence and thousands of new ones born every single day, I’m sure a handful of them will find one of your articles to be of interest to them.  Especially the “How NOT to Comment on Comments.”   WARNING TO READERS:  This particular article will kick your butt with some tough love.  If you take the risk and read it, don’t come crying to me and tell me I didn’t warn you, okay?  :)

Well, ladies and gentlemen, those of you who have been reading interviews every week, you can probably tell we are beginning to wind down with Lorelle.  We have one more coming up next week and that will be it.  By then, you’ll know her so well that next time I mention “Lorelle,” you’ll instantly recognize the name.

(Turning to Lorelle and giving her a hug):  Thanks again for coming to the campus!  As usual, we’ve enjoyed learning from you.  Can’t wait to have you back one final time next week.

Until then, enjoy!

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  • Karen Putz / DeafMom
    7:11 am on July 9th, 2008 1

    Harrumpf! Trailer trash? Far from it. The most classy lady ever to grace an RV. :)

    And David Bullock– man, what a smile that guy has! He’s definitely speaker material.

    I’m off to take the kiddo to football and I’ll be going through those links above.

    Karen Putz / DeafMoms last blog post..Socialization for Deaf and Hard of Hearing Kids

  • Corinne Edwards
    11:22 am on July 9th, 2008 2

    Dear Stephen -

    What a super smart lady. And, so accessible!

    I’ve been reading some of Lorelle’s suggested articles and learned more about “linking” just now that I ever knew before.

    Also going to check out Life 101.

    I don’t know how you got this “get” of an interview with her. Congratulations.

    It is a great compliment to you, Stephen!

    And as usual, you asked all the right questions. That is the test of a good interviewer. Asking the questions the reader wants to know.I have bookmarked all the articles for review. Lots at once here!

  • Peter | Pick The Brain
    3:54 pm on July 9th, 2008 3

    Lorelle and Stephen,

    Great interview! Lorelle, I picked up some great tips from your site back in my early days of blogging when I a bit more clueless. So thanks for that, and keep up the great work.

    Peter

  • Stephen Hopson
    7:36 pm on July 9th, 2008 4

    Karen:

    Definitely far from trailer trash - she’s being modest, as usual. :)

  • Stephen Hopson
    7:37 pm on July 9th, 2008 5

    Peter:

    Thanks for stopping by and letting her and I know how you benefited from her words of advice when you were just getting started. Glad you enjoyed our interview. We have one more part next week. Hope you’ll be back to see the grande finale.

  • Stephen Hopson
    7:38 pm on July 9th, 2008 6

    Corinne:

    It’s great when people like Lorelle make themselves accessible. It makes interacting with them fun and educational.

    Clearly, I’m enjoying the interview series. It’s a win-win situation for everyone.

  • Ryan
    9:07 pm on July 10th, 2008 7

    You scored a pretty nice interview here. Makes me wonder if I should start interviewing….?

    Lorelle is pretty accessible. Almost too accessible. Maybe I’m a people-phobe (for lack of the real term), but it’s almost like, “hey, if you tell me too much about yourself, I’ll have to care, and that’s scary.” She has a nice site though, and lots of information to consume.

    Ryans last blog post..Passing On Good Ideas: Flow

  • Lorelle
    1:13 pm on July 16th, 2008 8

    Should you start interviewing? I don’t know. I’ve done a lot of interviews, on both side of the microphone, and Stephen has a way of bringing out the “real” that I’ve never experienced. It helps to really participate, too, not do things half way. I’ve never been a half way person, so we were a match. :D

    You bring up an important point, Ryan. People want to care but they really don’t. Especially Americans. If you have to care and share, then I’ll have to compete or let you into my life - and my life is plenty full already. These are not true statements as your life can never be “too full” but we’ve let the self-help books teach us how to say no actually stop us before we ever get started.

    To do this right, you do have to let your guard down and be open to the experience. I’d love to see Stephen write more on that aspect of his work because he’s really good at it.

    And thanks all for the kind words. This was a bit scary, but Stephen made it really safe for me to expose more than I probably should.

  • Ryan
    1:26 pm on July 16th, 2008 9

    Too true, Lorelle, about Americans and self-help books. I’m thinking about writing one myself! I’m just kidding–that would be scary; like the blind leading the blind.

    I don’t think opening up and accepting any and all into your circle is a bad thing. It’s a good thing. I guess I struggle most with fitting that into my personality type. Granted, that personality has changed and can change to fit circumstances as needed, but I wonder if that is my true need or calling. Am I, or should I be, the person that sticks out in a crowd? That has contacts and friends all over the globe?

    You’re obviously one of those people, and I like that, because it makes my contrasting personality and life exciting. We’re all part of the mix. I guess I would like to think that if we were all accessible or “real” in the same way, then we would somehow implode the universe. OK, so not the universe, but at least the blogosphere, or local McDonalds, or something.

    Ryans last blog post..Too Good Not To Share

  • Stephen Hopson
    3:04 pm on July 16th, 2008 10

    @Ryan and Lorelle: I’m delighted to see you two conversing here at Adversity University on your own. That’s so exciting - and cool to boot.

    And Lorelle, thanks for the powerful compliment about my interviewing style. It’s kind of interesting because it’s not like we’re interviewing face to face yet you are indicating that my text interview with you was just as powerful, if not more so, then a face to face duo. Thanks! I’m thrilled to know I’ve made this interview easy for you. I guess you were picking up my energy, which is why things happened the way they did. If so, that’s way cool.

    You’ve both given me food for thought about taking my interviewing experiences to another level. Not quite sure how or what, but the seed has been planted - thanks!

  • Ryan
    3:26 pm on July 16th, 2008 11

    Here’s my case-in-point: planting seeds … farmers! Farmers don’t really have to be people people! I planted a seed (symbolically, mentally), so I’m a farmer … or have the farmer personality type … or something?

    Ryans last blog post..Too Good Not To Share

  • Stephen Hopson
    3:54 pm on July 16th, 2008 12

    Ryan:

    Hmmm…interesting….we are all farmers when you think of it that way. What a unique perspective on this!

    I would say that we are something along the lines of a farmer but only if we consciously choose to plant a seed. Deliberately planting a seed like a framer does is what makes us farmers. If consciously cultivate the garden of our minds, plant appropriate seeds and then nurture them - all on purpose - then we are farmers of the mind.

    There, how about that - “farmers of the mind.” Or maybe it’d be more accurate to say “farmers of the spirit”?

  • Ryan
    8:05 pm on July 16th, 2008 13

    Farmers of the mind/spirit–I like it. I also like how you can take my small analogy and make it into something so much more deep and amazing. Very cool talent.

    Ryans last blog post..Too Good Not To Share

  • Stephen Hopson
    8:16 pm on July 16th, 2008 14

    Ryan:

    Your latest comment made me smile in gratitude. It is people like you who remind me that I do make a difference w/ my God given talents and abilities.

    Thank you for inspiring me to keep being creative and letting the word flow!

    Stephen Hopsons last blog post..Stephen Hopson Interview with Lorelle on WordPress, Part IV of IV

 

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